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Author:  MinioN [ 20 Oct 2009, 16:00 ]
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Ovde ke pustam animacii,ne ocekuvajte mnogu samo sto pocnav so animiranje :)

Photoshop CS4 inace:

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Author:  THEMICO [ 20 Oct 2009, 16:02 ]
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Dobro e...za pochetok :)

Author:  ZoranC [ 20 Oct 2009, 17:31 ]
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Super e ova, eto ushte eden animator :)
Za vakva rabota - crtanje frejm po frejm probaj , ipak photoshop ne e za ova.

Author:  Damjan [ 20 Oct 2009, 17:55 ]
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cool :D

Author:  MinioN [ 20 Oct 2009, 19:33 ]
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Author:  MinioN [ 20 Oct 2009, 19:43 ]
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Nisto ne razbiram vo toon boom.Mestoto za crtanje e malo,odbiranjeto na bojata e loso a voopsto neznam sto znacat t.e za sto sluzat tie dolu Exposure Sheer,Function Editor i Camera kade sto se naodzaat frejmovite.

Ako nekoj znae kaj da najdam shortcuts ili da mi kaze koj e keyboard shortcut za nov frejm i dami kazete dali toon boom ima toa samo frejm po frejm ili podrzuva kako flash 8 i toa poinaku so elementi li kako bese...

Lol ama uste edna zabeleska za toon boom > ne mi se svidza so goleminata na cetkata i gumata ne e posebna t.e zaednicka e ako ja smenam na cetkata se menvit i na gumata :(

Author:  THEMICO [ 20 Oct 2009, 20:21 ]
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Neshto mnogu mnogu vo animacija ne se razbiram,ama ako sakash da animirash ne go praj to vo fotoshop....ILustracija i strip ok,ama animacija baraj nekoj od toa programite za animiranje :)

Author:  MinioN [ 20 Oct 2009, 20:48 ]
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Testiram vo Macromedia i Toon boom i ce vodam racun koj e najdobar za animacija.Zasega vodi photoshop :o :o :o

Author:  Damjan [ 20 Oct 2009, 20:51 ]
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ako sakas animacija racna, probaj so PAP lesen i ednostaven e!
ja go rabotev na vremeto, ali togas nemaf tablet, taka da ne vrsese mnogu rabota.

Author:  MinioN [ 20 Oct 2009, 21:03 ]
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Nemozam ni vo macromedia ni vo toon boom 1 sat praam 3 frejma odvaj nacrtav i toa bezveze se iznanervirav na kraj.Photoshop rulz!
A ovoj PAP sea ce go probam :)

Author:  MinioN [ 20 Oct 2009, 22:37 ]
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Eve uste edno pred spienje :) Ova e orginalot ama malce cudno bese so racete ama interesno mi bese pa go ostaiv
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I posle go prepraiv:
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Author:  THEMICO [ 20 Oct 2009, 22:43 ]
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Pobaraj na internet walk cycle i slichni trakatanci za animiranje ke ti se nat epten...

Author:  alhemyo [ 20 Oct 2009, 23:50 ]
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Супер, само фурај. Види ја тоа книгата што ти ја кажав. На крај, не е битно што софтвер користиш, во сите може горе доле истото да се направи.

Author:  Damjan [ 21 Oct 2009, 00:22 ]
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ne e loso ko za pocetok!
neznam dali slucajno ti ispadnal vok sajklot vaka ili namerno, ali vakov vok sajkl obicno se koristi vo nekoi mangi (so skokanje na klucni frejmovi)!
inaku na dobar pat si, mi se sviga so razmisljas ko animator! "napravi ja ednata strana pa miror na se" ;) :D ........ahhhhh..........animatori uvek baraat shortkat! :lol: :lol:

Author:  Damjan [ 21 Oct 2009, 00:25 ]
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inaku prvoto ti e bolje
i racete poise odgovaraat i poise frejma imas staveno, neznam zaso si gi kratel na ftoroto (najverojatno te mrzelo da gi koregiras racete na site frejmovi ;) )

Author:  MinioN [ 21 Oct 2009, 12:31 ]
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Author:  MinioN [ 21 Oct 2009, 13:08 ]
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ЕДИТ:да да клавале фрејмови меѓу фрејмовите.Сватив.Многу добро кажвит овој :lol:

Ako moze nekoj od ovie sto animiraat da mi go objasnat tajmingot(The Animator's Survival Kit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loCiTO8qEMI)
Go imam toj problem so go spomna 12 frejmova 1 sekunda se ama ne razbiram kako posle go naprai toa bavno mu dodade 12+ frejma ili so ???

Author:  ZoranC [ 21 Oct 2009, 13:53 ]
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Edna sekunda - 12 frejma za racna ili digitalna 2d animacija.
Za 3d toa e ili 24 ( za film ) ili 25 ( voglavno evropa TV - Pal sistem ) ili 30 ( amerikite - NTSC sistem ).

Na pocetok nacrtale samo 12 frejma - edna sekunda i gledash deka dejstvoto e prebrzo - shto povekje frejmovi tolku pomazno i pobavno dejstvo.
Zato izmegju dodale ushte po 1.... a mozebi i po 2.

Sega si u faza na eksperimentiranje so ovie raboti i kje treba da ti se razvie sensot za tajming, a toa samo so rabota.
Se e obidi i greshki, samo ti raboti i kje pocnesh postepeno vremeto da go mersih vo frejmovi :)

Author:  KRALe [ 21 Oct 2009, 14:13 ]
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иако немам многу везе цо цртање, имам со Телевизија (и концептот на истото)
Заради несовршеноста на човечкото око, движењето на последователни слики се добива чувство на „ожувување на сликите“. Значи, доколку во една секунда, ставиш 24 статични (полу)слики, ќе добиеш „динамика“.(или како што вика ZoranC „помазно дејство“). Америчкиот систем (NTSC) има 30 (полу) слики и е „посодржаен“... 8-)

Ете, ми помина меракот и јас да промрчам малку... :lol:

Author:  ZoranC [ 21 Oct 2009, 14:26 ]
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mi tekna na eden star muabet shto kruzeshe vo moite srednoshkolski denovi.....
demek filmot nema 24 fps (frames per second) tuku 25! videoto si odi so 24 ama sekoj 25-ti e slika na coca cola!!! :D :D :D
kolku bevme zeleni....... :D

Author:  MinioN [ 21 Oct 2009, 16:02 ]
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Ako moze mala pomos...Napraiv animacija so 19 frejma vo photoshop i koga ce go pustam izgleda bezveze ne e bash "smooth" da recam katastrofa.Zedov 5 frejma kako sliki i vo sony vegas gi staiv fade napraiv i izlea 100 pati poubo.
Sea sakav da prasam za vo macromedia flash dali ce dojdese poubo otkolku vo photoshop so istite frejma ili ne...

EDIT: Gledajte na ovoj kako mu idat ubo kako podmackano http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a62T1E-u ... re=channel a jas da go nacrtam istovo em ce mu klam medzu tie negovite frejmovi uste po 100 pak nema da dojde taka,a toj so nekolku frejma kakov efekt dobiva.

Author:  pikantez [ 21 Oct 2009, 21:28 ]
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za 19-te frejma, ne e bas "smooth" zasto ima premnogu frejmovi. neka ne ti zvuci kontradiktorno od prethodnite izjavi, ako imas 24 fps animacijata e najsmooth, ama treba da bide i smooth nacrtano.
odnosno, bidejki nemas iskustvo, liniite ti igraat i toa koga kje go vidis vo "full" animacija (odnosno 1 frem = 1 crtez) izgleda dosta loso. probaj vo vegas istite 19 crtezi da gi stavis sekoj od niv da trae po 2 frema, a potoa stavi gi uste ednas sekoj da trae po 3 frema. kje zabelezis deka animacijata kje izgleda podobro zosto nema tolku da igra linijata.

za da napravis tvoite 19 frema da bidat smooth, treba da im pomines uste eden pass na crtezite, i tuka doagja vo igra program za animacija, bidejki kje mozes na tajmlajn da proveris direktno kako izgleda vo dvizenje, a istovremeno kje mozes da ja koristis funkcijata "onion skin", odnosno da gi gledas istovremeno okolnite crtezi, i taka da go optimiziras crtezot na koj rabotis. ti preporacuvam sepak da go razgledas podobro toon boom, malku e kompliciran od pocetok ama kje si procitas kompletno manual i kje razgledas toa tutorialite. site pogolemi tv i film produkcii vo posledno vreme se pravat vo toon boom, ne e edinstven ama e najrasprostanet softver za 2d animacija..

i ne se sekiraj, e komplicirano ama posle nekoe vreme samo kje ti dojde. ;)

Author:  MinioN [ 21 Oct 2009, 22:57 ]
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Kako mislis uste eden pass?
Malce mislev i nemam probano ama mi tekna da probam da nacrtam 2 frejma na pogolema oddalecenost ili pomala zavisi i posle medzu niv uste eden frejm da klam.Primer imam 2 crtezi edniot glavata e gore drugiot malce podolu i posle medzu niv uste ednas da e nacrtam glavata nasredina.

Author:  ZoranC [ 22 Oct 2009, 01:20 ]
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Author:  rastaman [ 22 Oct 2009, 07:20 ]
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lujge, nemojte odma so advanced muabeti, ke go zbunite.
inace, bravo za trudot, vaka se uci
a gledam i deka najdobrite vo zanatot ti delat soveti, sto e za OGROMNA pofalba

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