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Stavot na Miler e idiotski nesomneno, no odamna Amerikanskata poiltika i propaganda ja plasira nivnata strana od bilo koj konflikt. Nasha generacija beshe rano izlozena na istata: Sochuvstvuvame so Rambo dodeka kole vietnamci, na Roki, samiot Gorbachov mu rakopleskashe itn. Dovcherashnite hipici, se pretvorija vo krvolochni hipsteri druze moj.

Edinstveno shto ostana e veruvanjeto vo ona shto ti odgovara. Na Amerite pa i Miller mu odgovara za 3 dolari da napuni rezervoar na svojot kadilak ili shotijaznam so gorivo od Bliskiot Istok, da jade se shto kje posaka koga kje posaka i kolku kje posaka iako ima milioni gladni...vo 21 vek, ej?. E sega za toa da ostane pristapno za Amerite, ako stradaat lugje, koj gi vrti. Bitno nivnoto da preovlada.

I ne e samo vo toa problemot, povekjeto Ameri shto sum gi zapoznal se dosta dignati i "detached" vo bilo koj muabet i ne retko znaat grubo da go prekinat istiot dokolku ne im odgovara ona shto go zborite. Tatko mi vika: Glup narod, silna drzava. Ako imash premnogu inteligentni i obrazovani lugje, nema da ima koj da raboti vo fabrikite za eftini pari, nema da ima topovsko meso potrebno za da funkcionira mashinerijata narechena vojna.

Se tresevme u 2001 koga pukna kaj nas, a prethodno za konfliktite na ex-yu prostorite lugjeto (so nekoi iskluchoci) voopshto ne se zamaraa deka toa e blisku i deka istoto moze lesno i na nas da ni se desi. Chim e nadvor od granici- te boli ku*. Chim prechekori nasha granica- We're all gonna die! Tazno, no za zal realnost.

Lichno bi ja batalil temava na muabet. Premnogu e konfliktna.

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Не знам кога темава стана “Америка како таква“ :)
Френк Милер ги нарекол протестерите "louts, thieves, and rapists".
Тоа е тоа.
А раздлабочена анализа на американското општество и нивно видување на светот не е дел од тоа. Генерализирање нации, ставови и сл. благе везе немаат со ова.
Френк Милер е куртон. Тоа е тоа :)

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Kako i pogolemiot del od modernoto opshtestvo. Toa i mi beshe poentata so prethodno kazanoto.

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Ама чекајте бе луѓе ова сеа ќе искочи ко за графичката новела, не е тоа поентата....а што е основата на демонстрациите е борба против корпорациите од економски социјални причини итн.....Милер работи за тие корпорации и на крај краева зарем нема право да ги вреѓа оние кои се против концептот на корпорации.....А кои исто така вреѓаат......Е тоа што сега Милер по радикален во своите ставоби тоа е друг проблем, ама на крај краева Америка е слободна демократска држава и секој има право на својот став и своето мислење да го каже јавно....или грешам....

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off topic do jaja momci

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Абе не му го одземавме уставното право на Miller да вреѓа кого сака :)
Него пробувам да сфатам зошто мислите дека е во право. А не дали има право да го каже тоа. Две различни работи.

До сега само сфатив дека е во право со тоа што ги нарекува протестерите кои се бунат против владеењето на корпорациите, силувачи и лопови затоа што тој, Miller, работи/работел за коорпорации. Така?

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у денешнио систем... никој не е невин... се е испреплетено ко кукурек... со та разлика шо кукуреко е фкусен и не можам да му се изнаситам.. :lol:


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Bidejki negovata kariera se sveduva vekje na royalties od stripovite kako 300, Sin City i deka kje mu treba naslov lichno negov za da go prodade na nekoja filmska kukja. Miller e super scenarist i crtach nema muabet, ali lesno e za nego da sere od negovoto sigurno gnezdo negde u NY, dodeka ispod drvoto mu umiraat lugje od glad, bolest i vremenski nepriliki radi korporacii. Se prashuvam kakov kje mu beshe stavot dokolku beshe anonimus bez eban dolar u dzep?

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ќе смислуваше добри стрипови со цел да дојде до кеш, слава, промоција и сл

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Kamo site lugje da bevme so darbite na Miller. Ali realnosta e deka ne sme. I idiotski e da se pluka na obichnata raja koja gladuva i gi gubi domovite, poradi shaka lugje sho igraat golf na tereni na koi moze da se napravat socialni stanovi.

Ali najdobro si kazuva George Carlin za ovaa tema:

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Луѓе не сакам да бидам тупаџијата и контраш по секоја цена ама јас поштувам една работа има муда да извреѓа голем дел од популација и тоа да го направи јавно и во одбрана на своите убедувања.

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^ значи не дека се контраш, туку едноставно му се восхитуваш што јавно извреѓал голема популација (индиректно и нивните истомисленици), од кои можеби и не се сите лопови и силувачи? :mrgreen:


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Chudno e, ali ova tipchevo od klipov pogore, za kazuvanje na svojot stav (koj e antikorporaciski i antibankarski) bil staven pred sud od drzavata, a vregjal samo edna shaka lugje, nasproti milioni kako Miller. Ne gledam drzavata da go tuzi nego. Shto doveduva do starata dobra Orvelova: SITE ZIVOTNI SE EDNAKVI POMEGJU SEBE, OSVEN NEKOI KOI SE POEDNAKVI OD DRUGITE Svetla tochka e shto Carlin go dobil sluchajot vrz osnova na pravoto za sloboden govor.

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Интересно, него вчера на другарче му ја објаснував ситуацијата у кафана нормално и ми текна на уште еден податок, ви текнува на главниот непријател у Робокап 3 а и Робокап серијалот од чичко Милер. (контадикторно а :mrgreen: :mrgreen: )

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Mislam deka poradi ova i se digna celava dzeva. Chitatelite (vkluchuvajki me i mene) znaat eden drug Miller, antikoorporaciski Miller, sega istiot toj jade gomna protiv negovite dovcherashni istomislenici. Neka mu sluzi na chest. Mene lichno pak mi ostanuva eden od najomilenite strip-avtori. Iako mozebi ne me bendisuva kako choek vekje. Nuff said.

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Miler e kultna lichnost.
Zato nesmej da i dozvoli moronski ispadi ko ovaj......
Shteta-poke go zamisluvaf (dark knight) na strana na obichnite lugje.



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Strip avtor- DA! Ama ako e on Bog, onda jas odma se prefrluvam u ateisti.

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