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Author:  Meskov [ 06 Oct 2011, 19:28 ]
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Although he was born in the outskirts of Washington, D.C. and raised in Vermont, cartoonist Frank Miller has identified himself as a New Yorker since moving there in the 70s. The city became a key figure in his run on Daredevil and through to his work on The Dark Knight Returns although under the guise of Gotham City. In the years since he’s told stories set in ancient Greece, a fictionalized Las Vegas, and even into the ravaged future, but he always returns to New York. In 2001 Miller returned to the boroughs of New York after years in Los Angeles to complete work on The Dark Knight Strikes Back. Just months after moving, September 11th happened and changed Miller profoundly. That experience shown through obliquely in The Dark Knight Strikes Back as well as in later works, but it wasn’t until his new graphic novel that the artist was able to approach it head-on.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/frank-m ... 11006.html

Author:  Meskov [ 06 Oct 2011, 19:32 ]
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Author:  Meskov [ 06 Oct 2011, 19:39 ]
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Самиот наслов и приказната се доста контраверзни, у ствари Френк е контраверзен сам по себе.
Еве и критика на Новелава

Frank Miller’s Holy Terror isn’t just a bad comic — it’s a bad propaganda comic

http://io9.com/5845828/frank-millers-ho ... anda-comic

Author:  Brian The Dog [ 06 Oct 2011, 20:01 ]
Post subject:  Re: FRANK MILLER on His Graphic [Novel] War on Terror

Од ова ни скен ни бутур уште, а? Излезе више или грешам?

Author:  Meskov [ 06 Oct 2011, 20:01 ]
Post subject:  Re: FRANK MILLER on His Graphic [Novel] War on Terror

Мислам дека е излезено, ама скен уште нема.

Author:  Comic Geek [ 06 Oct 2011, 20:07 ]
Post subject:  Re: FRANK MILLER on His Graphic [Novel] War on Terror

izlezeno e i nema edna dobra kritika a pod toa mislam, site kazuvaat deka ova e ili najdobriot ili najlosiot strip od nego, ne deka e loso napisan tuku deka imalo tolku golema voena propaganda....ova mi e mn licemerno, poso od ednas site se pacifisti.....zavrsi 24 i sea site make love not war....glupi se ko aj da ne kazam....ja cekam sken...i + go naracav od drugar..ako go donese top ako ne nikomu nisto ;)

Author:  Comic Geek [ 06 Oct 2011, 20:29 ]
Post subject:  Re: FRANK MILLER on His Graphic [Novel] War on Terror

inace stripot se vika Holy Terror :)

Author:  Brian The Dog [ 24 Oct 2011, 09:50 ]
Post subject:  Последен прочитан стрип


Author:  Laf [ 24 Oct 2011, 11:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Последен прочитан стрип

Фино изанализирано друже Мешков, нема што (јас инаку уште не го прочитав стрипот).

/A фино изанализирано и од Брајан и Гик пред тоа, се разбира... :)

Author:  Meskov [ 24 Oct 2011, 11:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: Последен прочитан стрип

Имаме различно видување за стрипот, тоа и го очекував.
Само јас за разлика од него не си ни обидев да го оценувам стрипов...
:)

Author:  Comic Geek [ 24 Oct 2011, 11:35 ]
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Author:  Meskov [ 24 Oct 2011, 11:53 ]
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Author:  Brian The Dog [ 24 Oct 2011, 12:09 ]
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Author:  KRALe [ 24 Oct 2011, 12:12 ]
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Author:  Meskov [ 24 Oct 2011, 12:13 ]
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Author:  Meskov [ 24 Oct 2011, 12:15 ]
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Author:  Comic Geek [ 24 Oct 2011, 12:21 ]
Post subject:  Re: Holy Terror (Frank Miller)

Stripov e 10 pati podobar Fear Itself nego li originalniot naslov....a za objasnuvanje ke se objasnime u sreda :)

Author:  Meskov [ 24 Oct 2011, 12:28 ]
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Author:  Brian The Dog [ 24 Oct 2011, 12:54 ]
Post subject:  Re: Holy Terror (Frank Miller)

Ако тоа е поентата на Holy Terror, тогаш поентата на Tom & Jerry е “репресијата на работничката класа (Jerry) од страна на империјалистите (Tom)“ :) Оваа реторика ја употребив и за Srpski Film. На горниот начин можеш да наоѓаш симболики во се. Ама баш се!
Грешката која сите ја прават со стрипов е “тероризам, патриотизам бла бла бла“. Не е тоа темата за дебата. Не верувам дека некој овде верува во обратното од тоа дека тероризмот е зло. Не открил топла вода Милер со тоа.
Поената е дека ова е лош стрип. Се е исфорсирано, неквалитетно и завиткано во американското знаме со цел дебата за стрипот се однесе на друго ниво. 5 години да спремаш стрип и да го спремиш ова, а зад себе да имаш дела како Year One, TDK, Daredevil е благо речено патетично.
Му го почитувам раниот труд на типот. Нема збор. Еден од препородниците на стрип културата во 80ти е. Ама не можам да се преправам дека царот носи облека кога е апла гол. Немам намера слепо да го правдам се она што ќе го состави, па макар и да е канализациски отпад како ова „дело“, само затоа што е Frank Miller.

Author:  Meskov [ 24 Oct 2011, 13:01 ]
Post subject:  Re: Holy Terror (Frank Miller)

Паралелата со Том и Џери е праислес..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Се разбираме многу добро, и пак ќе повотрам еден ваков прљав цртеж со ваква минималистички изразена длабока приказна ми е убаво решение. Е сега се согласувам со Брајан дека 5 години за ваков стрип е премногу.
Него друго ми беше муабетот зарем после 300 и Син Сити не се претпоставуваше дека Милер ќе оди во една ваква насока....(со исклучок на The dark knight strikes again)

Author:  Brian The Dog [ 24 Oct 2011, 13:07 ]
Post subject:  Re: Holy Terror (Frank Miller)

Не памтам каде прочитав/гледав муабет за Miller, во кој еден од учесниците го рече следново (парафразирам): Милер отсекогаш уствари САМО Sin City пишувал. Batman, Daredevil, Wolverine... Се е тоа Sin City ама со други ликови. Жив пример е Holy Terror. Само кој да ти знаел тоа :) А после Sin City само downhill иде типот.

Author:  Meskov [ 24 Oct 2011, 13:15 ]
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Author:  Comic Geek [ 24 Oct 2011, 13:17 ]
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Author:  Баш Челик [ 24 Oct 2011, 13:19 ]
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Прочитан!
Шо има полошо од нафуран јенки?!
То е муабетов!
Да не драпам многу ќе се согласам со мислењата на Брајан, Крале и Дарбог, ова е само еден лош стрип!

Шо ќе видиме со продолжението на 300 само бог знајт! ;)

Author:  THEMICO [ 24 Oct 2011, 13:23 ]
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Losha prikazna
Super crtezh(barem zamene)

Filmska adaptacija za brzo ochekuvam.

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