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Author:  MinioN [ 07 Apr 2009, 13:43 ]
Post subject:  Sketchhhh

Nabrzinka nesto ali ne e od WoW taka mi dojde parkour :) I ajde si rekov
Cartoon style valda xD
Inache da znajte brzo go crtav xD
I kazete mi kako da crtam poubo nekoj tehniki neznam ja ne ni odam vo umetnicko skolo samo od gledanje niko di matia na youtube toa znam :)
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Author:  THEMICO [ 07 Apr 2009, 13:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

Za 15 godini super ti se rabotive.Procackaj forumov ke najdish cat pat nekoj sovet.A i ke dobiesh :)

Author:  MinioN [ 07 Apr 2009, 13:57 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

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Eve nekoe cudoviste taka mi dojde od glava 2 minuti go crtav :)

Author:  talamar [ 08 Apr 2009, 10:18 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

Aj da prajme maabet. Nacelno za brzinski e super ali na nekoi raboti za vo idnina kje treba da obrnes vnimanie. Prvo teska poza si odbral za da crtas i toa e za pofalba, no za da izgleda porealno i podinamicno, treba da pazis na proporciite na racete i nozete kako i nivnata pozicioniranost vo sporedba so teloto za da se nagovesti dvizenjeto. Napraviv mala skica za otprilike da znaes za so zboruvam.

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Kako so mozes da vidis negovata leva noga ja pustiv nanapred so blago skratuvanje kako bi se osetila nejzinata dinamika vo celoto dvizenje. Imeno taa noga za razlika od drugata ima pogolem pat da pomine kako covekov bi zastanal so dvete noze na zemja vo isto vreme posle skokot (ili barem otprilika vo isto vreme. Rakata sto se drzi za ogradata (ili so i da e ova linijava dole) treba da e ponormalno postavena na istata kako bi se dobil efekt na pogolema stabilnost na skokacot (u tvojov slucaj postavenosta na teloto skokacot ne izgleda prirodno, a celata poenta na strip ilustraciite e da imaat doza na prirodnost vo dvizenjeto.) Posledni zabeleski se za sakata u vozduh i samata glava. Sakata ima mali sansi da bide vaka postavena pri skokot odnosno poverojatno e deka celata podlaktica e preklopena vo laktot i e nakaj nas ili kako so e pretstavena pogore. I probaj prostorot pomegju korenot na palecot i korenot na pokazalecot da go namalis (vaka malku nalikuva na sepa od majmun) Sto se odnesuva do glavata pogledni go primerot. Podolnata linija pretstavuva margina kade se ocite a pogornata linija e to stegacot.

Uff kritiki kritiki...ali ova se samo mali pointer-i za da se izvlece maksimumot od tvojata sposobnost. Za vakvi pozi (a i za sekakvi) probaj da nacrtas skelet (nesto nalik na onoj pogore so crvena boja) za da ja dobies sakanata poza a posle stavaj gi detalite (maici, pantoloni, patiki, oci usta nos usi prsti itn.) Isto sovet e da proucuvas vakvi dvizenja od videa i fotografii kako bi ja sfatil dinamikata i motorikata na istite.

PS. Se nadevam deka ne se lutis sto malku ti ckrtnav preku ilustracijata. :)

Author:  MinioN [ 08 Apr 2009, 12:22 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

Supeeeer fala bas taka da mi kazvite za da znam pa da si probvam.

P.S Mnogu tesko mi odi so oci,nos,usta t.e covecko lice.

Author:  rastaman [ 08 Apr 2009, 12:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

aj simni nekoja od knigite za crtanje
tamu e se super lesno objasneto
probaj i povezbaj spored nivnoto objasnuvanje, pocnnuvaj so crtanje so skici, so krugovi, konusi, formi...
pa kako sto kaza talamar, posle e lesno da se dodadat detali

Author:  MinioN [ 08 Apr 2009, 12:52 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: mnogu me nervira mausov pa nemozam eden krug da nacrtam cel den mi treba.Zivci mi jadi!!! ahhhh prokletata tabla nikogas nema da stigne madar fakar :P

Author:  THEMICO [ 08 Apr 2009, 13:05 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

Zemi crtaj prvo na hartija....tablata e samo alat

Author:  talamar [ 08 Apr 2009, 13:09 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

Nema potreba da se nerviras kje stigne koa kje stigne. Za toa vreme vezbaj rakata so moliv, penkalo ili mrtov tvor (ova Mico bi go rekol) i pravi skici so skelet stavi gi u lesni i teski pozicii i vezbaj dodeka ne go dobies osetot za motorikata na coveckoto telo. I nabljuduvaj. Od stripovi, ilustracii, crtani, videa i od so use ne. Nemoj da mislis deka site mani koi gi gledas vo tvoeto crtanje kje gi anuliras preku nok ili so 100 ili duri i 1000 crtezi Hell I still haven't ;) Samo ti crtaj u slobodno vreme i normalno nemoj crtanjeto da ti bide pricina za da gi zanemaruvas obvrskite na uciliste. Sepak obrazovanieto si e obrazovanie.

Author:  THEMICO [ 08 Apr 2009, 13:11 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

Zdraev e nepreshushen izvor na mudros.....:D
Inaku i jas crtam na cintiq pa nekni od Glavnijo grad donesof 8 i pol kila tefteri,za ckrtanje :D

Author:  MinioN [ 08 Apr 2009, 13:21 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

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Aj kazete tuka kaj imam zgreseno
Vaka ce nacrtam nekolku na list pa ce gi odnesam kaj drugar da mi gi skenira i che gi pustam :)

Author:  rastaman [ 08 Apr 2009, 13:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

http://rapidshare.com/files/179594533/C ... Marvel.pdf
aj simni go ova, pa posle crtni nesto... mislam deka epten ke ti se najde

Author:  talamar [ 08 Apr 2009, 13:41 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

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Prvo proporciite. Sekogas imaj u predvid deka coveckoto telo ima dolzina od 7 glavi (toa e sose glavata) a superheroite 8 glavi. Vtoro sakata treba da e pogolema. Pred da crtas skelet zastani pred ogledalo i napravi ja istata poza. Kje vidis deka objektite sto se poblisku do gledacot se pogolemi za razlika od onie koi se podaleku od istiot. Vo slucajov sakata treba da ima golemina otprilike kolku glavata. I normalno skratuvanjeto. E za ova nekoe pravilo bas i nema tuku samo praksa i oset koj kje dojde svojstveno so istata.

Idi u topic ilustracii i odi na topicot na alhemyo. Tamu ima eden covecki skelet so prai nekoja kapuera poza. Skeletot kako so treba da go crtas tamu najubavo kje go vidis te koj del od teloto na koe geometrisko telo odgovara. Se nadevam deka malku od malku ti pomognav. Skecot mi e nabrzina ali mislam deka kje posluzi za primer. ;)

Author:  MinioN [ 08 Apr 2009, 13:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

Ok tnx talamar.A rastaman ja go simnav toa ama neznam sho e lol XD mislam sto se liniite i kako da gi meram.
7 glavi?Kako da izmeram 7 glavi lol prvpat slusam za glavi :)

Author:  talamar [ 08 Apr 2009, 13:55 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

Kje ja nacrtas glavata i posle spored nea kje meris. Ne e toa nekoj propisan ISO standard :lol:

Author:  MinioN [ 08 Apr 2009, 14:10 ]
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Author:  MinioN [ 08 Apr 2009, 14:25 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

Aj malce pomos nemozam da najdam vo fajlov ovoj...
Epa vaka crtam sea na list,mu e crtam glata meram i pram 8 linii (za heroj) i crtam spored tutorialot so go dauwnloadirav mi ide kako strk mnogu visok :S aj ce probam na photoshop da vi kazam na so mislam ako ne svacate.

Author:  rastaman [ 08 Apr 2009, 14:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

epa zgolemi go kaj ramenicite, rashiri go malku, nema da bide kako shtrk, tuku ke si dojde kako batka

Author:  MinioN [ 08 Apr 2009, 14:52 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

Aj sea kazete...neka nacrta koj saka se' kade sto treba za da znam mnogu polesno mi e taka (kako talamar).Mene licno ne mi izgleda nesto ubavo malku cuden e
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P.S ne zaboravajte deka crtam so maus koga e vo photoshop zato nemoza mnogu prv da go napram :) lol ama na list ubo go nacrtav

Author:  Damjan [ 08 Apr 2009, 15:01 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

vidi vaka.....
ovie proporcii se nekakov standard! no neznaci deka sekogas mora da se pridrzuvas do niv! bidejki ne sekoj covek e ist i kaj mnogu malku od lugeto ovie proporcii funkcioniraat!
mozes da prodolzis da rabotis vrz osnova na niv no podocna ke primetis deka i ne se tolku realni!
aj sea ke skrabnam nesto za da vidis na sto mislam!

Author:  rastaman [ 08 Apr 2009, 15:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

Kratki noze, dolgo torzo (ova od prv pogled videno)
eve ti nesto sto nabrzinka najdov od internet

8 Glavi (podelenost koj del od teloto kolku glavi da ima)
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Samo glava
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Author:  rastaman [ 08 Apr 2009, 15:55 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

aj vaka pocni da vezbas
gledaj go Mr Fantastic
nacrtaj vakvo telo, bez detali (bez obleka, bez faca...)
posle samo stavi si svoja idea za karakter, kostim, frizura, izgled na facata...
a posle, tvojot dobien lik, nacrtaj si go pak, bez da go gledas ovoj crtez...

Author:  Damjan [ 08 Apr 2009, 16:15 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

eve ti za sto ti praev muabet!

Prvoto e nacrtano spored tie pravilata od kniga, dodeka
vtoroto e nacrtano bez koristenje na proporcii (cisto samo da izgleda proporcionalno tocno)
I dvete funkconiraat, no ne se isti!
taka da ovie pravila sto gi zadavaat vo kniga se za sovrseniot maz! a toj realno ne postoi!!! (leleee, zvucam ko zena vo depresija :D )
Sekoe telo ima svoi proporcii i sekoj crtac si gi postavuva spored svoi standardi (zavisat od karakterot sto sakas da go dolovis).
Dali ke bide nizok i debel, slab i visok, visok i zgrbaven,.....itn.
Iako gi imam skoro site knigi za anatomija sto mozat da se najdat kaj nas, gi neam otvoreno nitu ednas! (osven onaa na Burne Hogarth, posto tipot e GENIJE!!!).
Odsekogas sum se stremel da crtezot izgleda dobar (anatomski) spored mene, a ne spored kniga!
Realno od ovie knigi mozes da naucis MNOGU!!!!! Samo sto jas sakav da go pominam poteskiot pat, odnosno sam da stignam do toa znaenje, crtez po crtez! (sto funkcionira, no procesot e dolg i makotrpen!)
Taka da mojot predlog do tebe e da gi razgledas ovie knigi i pocni da gi precrtuvas crtezite vo niv!
I ako ne ti se dopaga nesto vo crtezot, pocni odpocetok (ne za gabe stoi pogovorkata POVTORUVANJETO E MAJKA NA ZNAENJETO!).
So tek na vreme ke vidis golemo podobruvanje!

Se nadevam deka ova moe iskustvo ke ti pomogne!!!

Pozdrav.

Author:  rastaman [ 08 Apr 2009, 16:19 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

interesna tema so tutoriali ispadna...
btw Damjan, bravo za toa sto ne te mrzi quick tutorial da spremis!

Author:  MinioN [ 08 Apr 2009, 16:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Sketchhhh

hehe fala mnogu ce probam da nacrtam nesto spred toj od fantastic 4.Prvo vo cyclops ce go napram a posle nekoj moj ce si izmislam(i bonus ime ce mu smislam :D)

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