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Тема за правото на авторите на стрипови/карикатури за креативната слобода, од една страна, и (пре)чувствителноста на одредени групи по однос на некои прашања, од друга страна.


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Aha....jasno....mislef nekoj konkurs ili votevr...
Aj ke pisham denojve...moi dozhivljaji :) i ponekoe iskustvo....

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Ха!
Јас сум фан на Саут ПАрк бај д веј.....
Ова ми изгледа ко за спениш инквизишн....па то треба Стевац и Јофе да се обесат одма.....шо чекаме?
Дебилно е ова.....ама периодов е таков (не мешам политика пошо не сум сигурен од кога политиката стана толку чесна професија) па пукаат од сите топој....
Верата е ок-сите сме верници кој повеќе кој помалку-ама има уше една поделба-глупи и паметни луѓе....
Не знаеф дека и комисија имало за ова?

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Добар муабет може да се разврзе на темава дефинитивно.

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Eddie, Ne.
OVA ne bese kreativnost, tuku bese namerna tempirana bomba, vo pogresno vreme, so izrazito provokativni celi.
Ja osudovam ureduvackata politika na vesnikot Fokus.
Nevkucno, nisko, bezobrazno, i pred se - nepotrebno. Osven, za zgolemuvanje na tiraz i (anti)reklama.
I sto sakas kazi, ama ova bese verska i politicka diskriminacija.

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Тотална слобода секој да каже што сака! Без компромис. Политичари се. Кој ги ебе.
Кој е навреден може да се исплаче и ќе му помине.

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spored ova sto go vidov nabrzina izgleda kako da se zafrkavale so politicarite, a ne so Gospod.
ili toa e stanato isto?

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Ovde veke ne stanuva zbor za politika, tuku za navreda na vernicite... toa deka Gospod e prikazan kako zena so brada, ili glava na maz i telo na zena... totalno nevkusno, i nema opravduvanje, treba da se ima malku usul...

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А има ли некои цврсти докази како изгледа(л) госпоТ? Лична карта, табло од матурска, пасош?





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А да не збориме за верзијата од Гарт Енис кој што е тоталка луд и мастурбира 24/7. Уметност бе чоече.

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Abe Comic, MENE najde ga mi kazuvash za Wormvood i kompanija??? :)
Stanuva zbor za losha NAMERA, odnosno Pocit kon odredena grupa na luge.
Sproti golem verski praznik (Veliki Cetvrtok), da se zezash za istoto, makar bilo toa vo politichi celi - ne e ubavo.
A glupo e sega da sr stava pod naznaka "Kreativnost", bidejki vo ovoj slucaj - ne e toa.

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Је Талибанци бе....
Апсолутно ми е ок спрдачина на скоро секоја јавна тема....посебно овие по експонираните....политики религи и слично....
Епизодата од саут парк со господ ко ке слези како и Догма се епски дела на темава...

Мислам дека полека ама сигурно естаблишментот ни поставува граници во кој смејме да се движиме а промовира домашни видеа со малолетнички и слично....

Нот ин мај бук....шо сакам ке прам во рамките на нормалното чоечко понашање и воспитание.

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aa ne vidov deka bil zena so brada :)
za kreativnost ne e kreativnost ovde sigurno. dali treba da se zabrani? tesko prasanje :)

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Крале не си у право, утре ќе ти објаснам и зошто. :)

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I za mene ova e premnogu... kako ne se najde nekoj junak na Bajram da go nacrta Alah kako hermafrodit? Ama za edna karikatura na Muhamed pred nekolku godini na eden karikaturist ke mu letnese glavata... zosto ednovo moze, a drugoto ne? Samiot Kevin Smit ima izjaveno deka za prodolzenie na "Dogma" ne se ni osmeluva da go napravi, posto neizbezno ke bide da go opfati islamot... a sega imal deca, pa nema hrabrost da go napravi toa.
Kako i da e, se raboti za pocit, ima vreme i mesto i nacin koga moze, a koga ne, treba da se ima malku cuvsto. Vernici si se vernici, nevkusno e da gi vregjas na praznik. Pogotovo ne na takov den. I ako negde e toa napraveno, ne znaci deka e opravdano.

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Па Алах е арапски за Господ, така да технички, навредата е и кон нив.

Од друга страна, до кај ќе стигнеме ако репер за "што е дозволено, а што не" земаме од исламски фундаменталисти.


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Istata institucija koja go osuduva stripov i "ismejuvanjeto" na Gospod Bog, pred dobri 11 veka kornela jazici so uzareni kleshti na site onie koi ne ja prifakjale crkvata kako institucija i se vodele po postulatot: Crkvata na Boga e vo nas samite. Apsolutno nerelevantni mi se nivnite gledishta okolu bilo koja tema, zemska ili bozenstvena. Izvinuvanje do site onie vernici koi so osuduvanje na konkretniov strip gi zaboravile zborovite na Isus: 1 „Не судете, за да не бидете судени!
2 Зашто со каков суд судите, со таков ќе ви се суди; и со каква мерка мерите, со таква ќе ви се мери.” (Matej 7:1-2). Interesna zabeleshka od covek koj uchel od Isus. Mene posebno me bendisuva tochka 15 od ova evangelie.

Ve molam ne se ni obiduvajte da parirate na ovoj post. Moite ubeduvanja se ednakvi na vashite, bez razlika na toa dali istite se vo kompletna sprotivnost edna so druga. Frazata koja ja baram e covecko pravo na izbor na verska opredelba. Povekje na ovaa tema ovde: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion

Da mozev kje ja izbrishev temava i muabetive za 3 sekundi. Ama forum e, sekoj go ima pravoto da svoeto mislenje go iskaze sloborno.

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Nitu "Fokus" e zabranet, nitu go osudija crtacot, nitu imase bilo kakva pravna tuzba ili slicno... taka da dzabe vezeme ovde, nicie pravo ne e usliseno, a najmalku pravoto za izbor na verska opredelba.

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Обвинувања упатени кон Манара за неговата корица за Spider-woman, поради наводнa сексуализација на ликот:

"The variant cover by Manara looks like a pose right out of porn, pelvis up and cheeks spread, costume looking like body paint, and it makes me very uncomfortable. She doesn’t look like a superhero about to strike, she looks like she’s about to get… well, it’s a porn pose. This is sexualisation. It also reminds me of the Dog Bone sexy shape." http://www.themarysue.com/controversial ... s-redrawn/

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Има обвинувања и дека утнал анатомија, ама тоа не е дел од темата.

Што Манара одговори:

"On the erotic side, on the other hand, I found the thing a little surprising," he continued. "Apart from the fact that there is a compulsory prerequisite to do: it seems to me that both in the United States and in the rest of the world there are things much more important and serious you have to deal with. The facts of Ferguson, or the drama of Ebola. That there are people that if the take for things like… unless there is, in these times, a hypersensitivity to images more or less erotic, due to this continuous comparison that we are called to do with Islam. We know that the censure of the woman's body should not be a characteristic our, western. It is also this that I am surprised enough." - http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=55052


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вит ол дју риспект
манара е еден од најдобрите живи уметници
марвел никогаш не биле по анатпмојата
многу почнаја да се вреѓат луѓето за се

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