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Toa mislam deka najdobro okarakteriziruva shto moze Dark Side da sozdade od praktikantot, kako fizichki taka i psihichki. Pretpostavuvam deka dvajcata koi Maul gi lovi se isto taka zabraci, ali premnogu izdeformirani, shto pa od druga strana voopshtone e pogreshno zashto ima mnogu primeri koga eden sith pod dejstvo na Dark Side kompletno ke se deformira, sepak zabracite ne se do tolku monstruozni kako shto se ovie dvajca, baemne normalnite zabraci.

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Da, Palpatin e odlichen primer za toa kako Dark side deformira. Ima premnogu primeri za toa, ustvari nekoi si 70% od sith, barem onie poistaknatite se deformirani na vakov ili onako nachin, nekoi se deformirani vo odnosna oa deka stanale grdi, strashni zagledanje itn, a nekoi pak poradi mnogu bitki i isgubeni organi stauvat pola kiborzi kako shto e Darth Vader, poshto on ne e prv sluchaj sith da e kiborg.


Ajde koga sme veke kaj toa. Dark side. Force ima dve stranionaa koja prva e otkriena, odnosno Light side of the Force, se koristi za razni celi za da se pravi "dobro", morashe pod navodnici zashto i so Light side moze da se ubie nekoj, no generalno se koristi za chuvanje na mirot vo galaksijata. Ja koristat praktikanti koi se narecheni jedi (џедаи). Loshoto vo seto ova e shto univerzumot na Star Wars e kako nashiot, ima svetlai mrachna strana, pa taka Force ima svoja Dark side, koja i te kako ima tendencija a sozdava haos. Praktikantite na Dark side generalno zemeno se vikaat sith (сит) objasneto vo tekstovite pogore mnogu podetalno zoshto se taka narecheni. Dark side of the Force kako shto kazav ima tendencija da sozdava haos i da go kontrolira istiot potpolno, toa e dokazano so toa shto sith sekogash imaat tendencija da sozdavaat imperii. Mokitena Dark side se chisto destruktivni, i toa vo bukvalno sekoja smisla na zborot, dali na primer toa ke bide najpoznatiot Lightning strike, ili ke bidat iluzii i trikovi soumot ne e vazno, vazno znae da napravi tolku shteta shto po nekogash potrebni se godini za nekoi rani da zazdravat.


Karakteristichno za praktikantite na Dark side e toa sho kako shto kazavme pogore, gi menuva, jas bi rekol giunakazuva. Za razlika od site drugi prikazni vokoi zloto prvo go menuva chovekot fizichki pa posle i goopsednuva mentalno, tuka e obratno. Dak side prvo go izvitoperuva umot, toj shto prakikuva dark side stanuva poagresiven, po netrpeliv, zelbata zaubivanje i za kontrla vrz drugie mu e udvostruchena, kontrolata vrz sebe e svedena na minimum a racionalnoto razmisluvanje rechisi go nema. Potoa sleduvat fizichkite promeni, najprvo pochnuvaat so promena na bojata na ochite. Pod dejstvo na dark side ocite na praktikantot pochnuvaat da ja menuvaat bojata i toa najchesto se nijansi na zolta i crvena, potoa koжata pochnuva drastichno da obleduva osven okolu ochite kade shto, moze a i nemora,potemnuva, isto taka vo mnogu sluchai istata stanuva gruba i nabrchkana. Mnogu chesto na licata kako i po celoto telo na praktikantite se zabelezuvaat proshireni krvni sadovi. Promenite isto taka variraat i vo zavisnost od rasata.

Generalno zemeno toa se najchestite karakteristiki na promena kaj eden dark sider, iakoima primeri kade promenite se najrazlichni, ovie gore spomenatite se najchestite.


Edna slika na kad bi bilo shta bi bilo so Obi-Wan. :D

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Хм...интересна теорија, јас само би напоменал дека илзујијата како таква ја запознаваме во првите арки од страиповите или ти некои 4 илјади години пред Лук, Палпатин и остала екипа, во филмовите аи во подоцнежните приказни мислам дека ја нема, со ова потенцирам еволвирање на моќите од темната страна на силата или деволвирање (тема за дискусија) Многу е интересен и фактот што не секогаш се применуваат сите моќи од темната страна, паралела правам со стрип, втората трилогија и првата трилогија - што по дифолт вероватно укажува дека и ситовите се специјализираат за одредени моќи (што по мене е и малку глупо - ради моентот што секогаш се двајца) пример Ведер секогаш делува некако тромо, споро како да има тенденција да изгуби, провоцира (ај да не кажам како да е под контрола на имераторот - ова исто така отвара нови териоии)

Правев некое истражување и еве чисто информативно кои се моќите:
1.Светла страна:
Alter Environment
Animal friendship
Battlemind
Beam of light
Combustion
Cure Disease
Cure Poison
Droid Disable
Electric Judgment
Force blinding
Force Enlightenment
Force healing
Force Light
Force Meld
Force persuasion
Force projection
Force Stun
Force Stasis
Force Valor
Hibernation Trance
Malacia
Mind trick
Morichro
Plant Surge
Protection bubble
Ray
Revitalize
Sever Force
Shatterpoint
Tutaminis
Wall Of Light

Еве линкче за повеќе детали
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Light_side_of_the_Force

2.Темна страна:
Deadly Sight
Force corrupt
Force lightning
Force choke
Force crush
Force drain
Force Destruction
Force phantom
Force Slow
Force insanity
Force scream
Force rage
Force stealth
Thought bomb
Memory Walk
Spear of midnight black
Transfer essence
midi-chlorian manipulation

Линкче за повеќе детали
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_side_of_the_Force

ПОследново од темната страна ми стана доста интересно (Одмаздата на Ситот - Палпатин му кажува на Анакин дека може да ја спаси Падме)

Ах отидовме у друга насока со муабетов.... :D

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Ne ne ne, na prav pat sme. Vidi generalno do sega vo Star Wars mnogu chesto go ima toj moment "Mozesh da go/ja spasish ako preminesh na dark side." zboram celokupnata prikazna zemeno vo predvid stripovi, igri i filmovi. Rabotata e vo toa shto, sporedmene barem se raboti za manipulacija, ne deka so dark side nemoze da se spasi nechij zivot, moze, ama ima tuka edna caka, so light side koga spasvahs nekogo, toa go pravish bezuslovno odnosno ne barash nishto za vozvrat, "pacientot" e zdrav i spasen, dokolku so dark side sekogas ima cena, mora da se plati, mora da ima neshto shto ke bide dadeno za vozvrat, sekako toa moze da bide bash se, eve najstarot primer, Exar Kun,on bukvalno si ja prodade dushata na Freeedon Nadd, beshe spasen da,ne umre, beshe celosno izlechen ama seto toa siimash "teshki" posledici po toa. Vo sluchajot na Palpatin i Anakin jas lichnomislam deka e manipulacija od stana na Palpatin kon Anakin, i toa po dva osnovi. Prvo, ima pred sebe ochajnik i izguben koj saka neshto ama nema ni sam poim shto saka, koga nekoj ima izmeshani emoci i nesigurnost toa e plodna pochva za sith manipulacii, i plus malu zachineto so dark side magic (spored mene) za da mu gi multiplicira chivstvata i ete go rezultatot. Mislam deka Palpatin vo ni eden moment nemashe namera da mu pokaze na Anakin kako da ja spasi Padme, naprotiv mislam dekaon tokmu i planirashe da umre ona za da go zeme maliov pod kontrola.

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Значи не да е манипулација него манипулација на квадрат, тоа и го пишав на почетокот дека кога ги гледам филмовите (првата трилогија) добивам чуство дека Ведер е контролиран од Палпатин - значи финтата е ко со Доку у третиот дел, Палапатин сака да ја разгори темната страна и да го смени својот ученик со појак. Знали пред и над се манипулација.

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Pa ustvari koa ke razmislish vaka logichki, ushte u start, eve vo stripovite,orvata rabota koja ja doznavame za sith e deka se strashni manipulatori, Naga Sadow gi izmanipulira site ama Ludo Kressh kompletno pa go izmanipulira nego, a za Freedon Nadd pa veke i da ne zborime, duri osekam deka i duhot na Marka Ragnos izigra manipulativna uloga koga gi smiri Naga i Ludo.

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Цут ви е муабетов, а и баш како колумна го спукафте ова за темната и светлата страна. Закон!

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Fala Dare, jas pak ke kazam deka mnogu me raduva shto Meshkov praktichno me potseti na temava, zal mi e shto beshe poveke vreme "zapostavena" ama eve so Meshkov se trudime kolku mozeme poveke da zivee, nas ni e drago i milo shto drugite koi ne chitaat uzivaat poshto sakame da go spodelime znaenjeto koe go imame so site. Meshkov ke go citiram "Star Wars e magija." i kako tava ja tretirame, em nie uzivame dodeka muabetime em uzivame koga znaeme deka i drugite uzivaat, pak ke kazam fala Dare. :D



E sega, othcno momentot na sekogash se dvajca e tuka da recham zachnat, samo na Wookieepedia najdov interesen podatok za Darth Maul, imeno koga Palpatine pochnal da go trenira on samiot bil uchenik, praktichno go skrshil praviloto na dvajca i go treniral Maul tajno bez da znae Darth Plagueis. Ushte pointeresen fakt e deka najchesto uchenicite gi ubivaat uchitelite i toa e krug koj si se vrti. Ke dadam eden trejler sega od Star Wars: The Old Republic u koj na kraj go ima tokmu toa.




Inaku devojkata e Master Sateel koja podocna stanuva lider na sovetot u toa vreme, a pak sith-ot e Darth Malgus, go ubiva svojot master Vindican koj e pure blooded Sith, kako onie za koi so Meshkov mnogu chesto diskutirame, Naga Sadow, Ludo Kressh itn. Enjoy.

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Јап и само да надополнам со уште еден пример и Вентрес е тренирана од Доку иако он самиот е ученик на Палпатин - иам тука доста варијации ама тоа е и убавината нели, секогаш има исклучок од правилото а токму тука и лежи убавината нели.... :D
Патем имам некоја идеја у глава во врска со она што го спомна Даре ама то прво со Халф да договорам па ќе видиме.....

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Kazuvaj, ja sum sekogahs raspolozen za sorabotka. Sakash da pisheme neshto za SW stripovite za nareden broj na Sindrom or something like that?

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Вечер седнувам да исчитам се' што сте пишале во топиков, почнувајќи од viewtopic.php?p=129696#p129696, а во меѓувреме досимнав што фалеше и ги наредив стриповите од овие Star Wars периоди (подвлечените уште не се излезени):


Желбата да исчитам се' ова е голема во моментов, а се разбира - инспирацијата дојде од муабетите во Штрк. :ugeek: Се надевам дека ќе најдам време (и сили за читање од PC :)) што побрзо да ги прочитам. Кога ќе обезбедам доволно слободен простор, ќе ги средам и стриповите од преостанатите периоди.

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Таман работа, едноставно само ќе се договориме двајцата да напишеме текст во кој ќе ги споделиме нашите искуства.

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Ok, ja sum raspolozen za toa da go napravime mnogu, ama iskreno koga gi chitam tvoive osvrti me fascinira kako precizno go kazuvahs toa shto treba da se kaze, zatoa rekov ke mi treba pomosh okolu tekstovite.

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Dogovoreno, poshto sekako u Petok ke ja nosam i slikata taka da ke bide nadopolneto so SW art. :D

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Благодарам многу :D

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19 Apr 2012, 10:37
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Nema za shto, dobriot moabet si ja donese slikata sam po sebe, plus toa moram da priznaam sekogash e zabavno koga pravam od lightsabre blade-ot, chisto zashto e interesno da se igra so svetlinata. :lol:

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19 Apr 2012, 11:46
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:lol: :lol:
you follow the path of dark side with this one :mrgreen:

Шала на страна се разбираме и фала уште еднаш брат.

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19 Apr 2012, 11:53
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Nema gajle. Inaku znam utre ke zborime ama pak go otvaram moabetot, za shto ke pishuvame, poshto mnogu stripovi se.

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